I would buy both if I had the choice, but the 64GB iPod Touch catches my eye, the Zune will be better for me when I see them make a 64GB model with internal speakers (dont care if they suck), as well as more apps. Who knows I might not get either till late next year. What would you choose, or what do you have, or what do you prefer???Would You Buy an iPod Touch or a Zune HD ...
Personally I'd go with iPod touch. It just looks better.Would You Buy an iPod Touch or a Zune HD ...
zune hd is smaller, better screen, better sound, and looks nicer. touch has an app store.
Cnet has a good review.
only thing touch has over hd is app store, and MS that is on MS to do list.
got my hd last week with an incipio case that came with a screen protector. I am not dissapointed.
id go with the touch
I'm getting a Zune HD for Christmas. The only thing the ipod has over the Zune HD is the app store, and Zune's app store will come along eventually. the AZune is also much more powerful than the itouch, which means when the games come, they will look better than the itouch's.
Zune is a really nice piece of equipment, but the ''only thing'' everyone keeps bringing up is the most important aspect: the apps. Kind of like a Mac vs PC argument, when you're looking to game on a device, you go where the software is. Currently, there are over 121,000 apps on the AppStore, and the platform has the attention of most major gaming publishers (and a slew of indie developers). To assume Zune will soon (if ever) match the number and variety of games and entertainment apps on the AppStore is a huge leap of faith.Since this forum is specifically about the gaming capabilities of mobile devices, the iTouch runs away with this one...
[QUOTE=''santoron'']Zune is a really nice piece of equipment, but the ''only thing'' everyone keeps bringing up is the most important aspect: the apps. Kind of like a Mac vs PC argument, when you're looking to game on a device, you go where the software is. Currently, there are over 121,000 apps on the AppStore, and the platform has the attention of most major gaming publishers (and a slew of indie developers). To assume Zune will soon (if ever) match the number and variety of games and entertainment apps on the AppStore is a huge leap of faith.Since this forum is specifically about the gaming capabilities of mobile devices, the iTouch runs away with this one...[/QUOTE]
just because the forum has gaming in it doesn't mean that it is the only thing we take into consideration when comparing two devices. Seems kinda stupid to compare two things judging by only one feature....
If you love app/games go with the touch.If you just care about videos/music go with the zune.
[QUOTE=''SF_KiLLaMaN'']I'm getting a Zune HD for Christmas. The only thing the ipod has over the Zune HD is the app store, and Zune's app store will come along eventually. the AZune is also much more powerful than the itouch, which means when the games come, they will look better than the itouch's.[/QUOTE]The Zune is NOT more powerful than the 3rd gen ipod touch or the 3GS. Tegra might be more powerful than the ipod's OMAP chipset, but the 128mb of RAM limits it severely.
I had a choice between the two and I chose the MP3 player over the App Player.
I have an iPod touch and a Zune 8. The difference in the sound is definitely noticeable.If you're looking for a media player with a touch screen, the Zune HD is the way to go. The iPod's App Store turns the iPod into a handheld computer, albeit one that's unnecessarily restrictive.
[QUOTE=''red12355''][QUOTE=''SF_KiLLaMaN'']I'm getting a Zune HD for Christmas. The only thing the ipod has over the Zune HD is the app store, and Zune's app store will come along eventually. the AZune is also much more powerful than the itouch, which means when the games come, they will look better than the itouch's.[/QUOTE]The Zune is NOT more powerful than the 3rd gen ipod touch or the 3GS. Tegra might be more powerful than the ipod's OMAP chipset, but the 128mb of RAM limits it severely.[/QUOTE]
Show me evidence that the 3GS is capable of better graphics than the Zune. The Zune has yet to have an app that truly shows how powerful it is, so it is almost impossible to compare the two graphics wise. There is more to power then just memory. The PS3 has less memory than the 360 but is still capable of better graphics than the 360.
i went with the zune HD, better sound, better screen/colors. And Ill take the zune market place over itunes
Well i already have a iPod touch. i have seen the Zune, not that great. it's ok if your looking for a music/video player, but if you want that plus games and apps, get an itouch. ahh, what am i saying? get an iPod touch.
[QUOTE=''SF_KiLLaMaN''][QUOTE=''red12355''][QUOTE=''SF_KiLLaMaN'']I'm getting a Zune HD for Christmas. The only thing the ipod has over the Zune HD is the app store, and Zune's app store will come along eventually. the AZune is also much more powerful than the itouch, which means when the games come, they will look better than the itouch's.[/QUOTE]The Zune is NOT more powerful than the 3rd gen ipod touch or the 3GS. Tegra might be more powerful than the ipod's OMAP chipset, but the 128mb of RAM limits it severely.[/QUOTE] Show me evidence that the 3GS is capable of better graphics than the Zune. The Zune has yet to have an app that truly shows how powerful it is, so it is almost impossible to compare the two graphics wise. There is more to power then just memory. The PS3 has less memory than the 360 but is still capable of better graphics than the 360.[/QUOTE] Ps3 doesn't have less ram than the 360.... They both have 512mb ram... 360 has unified 512 that can get distribuited to both cpu and gpu at 700mhz. The PS3 has 256 XDR ram for the Cpu which runs at 3.2GHz speed... its the same speed as the cpu and can also be used for the Gpu when needed... It also has a dedicated 256mb ram for the Gpu at 700mhz ... Both are about equal in Ram... both have 512mb and the unified arch advantage of the 360 is equaled out by the insanely fast XDR memory on the ps3..AS for the Zune , I owned a zune 30gb and my girl has one too, hers has nothing but trouble.. She has the unlimited download service and if she doesn't sync at least 2x a week it says: ''Usage rights expired'' and doesn't let her play her songs, when she then tries to sync it only does half of them and the service is constanly removing songs so her library shrinks. To get all the songs on there you have to format and resync. which can take about 3-4 hours putting thousands of songs and vids back on there.I was in the market 3 months ago for a new mp3 as my Zune 30 got stollen... I was all set to get the zune hd until i messed with the ipod touch in the store. Let me tell you the navigation on the zune hd is crap comapred to the icons on the touch. The touch is just so freakin cool.. with all the apps and has much better podcast support. Try looking for Playstation related podcasts in the Zune marktetplace... there is maybe 2 and they are tucked away...You can probalby guess why that is. Anyway i have been so happy with the ipod touch 30gb. there is a game called the quest which is like Might and magic 6 meets Morrowind... and there is nethack... It still doesn't match my psps or ds lite but its still cool, and actually has apps unlike the zune. I am not an apple fan but its the same thing that turns me away from MACs nothing is made for them. Apple sucks on pcs for the same reason MS sucks on mp3 players.
If I were buying a new music product, I'd take a chance on the Zune HD. How many Ipods have you owned? As I write this, I stopped to think for a second and can not even remember how many new/returned/refurbed ipods have been in my pocession. And realistically, so much of the apple app store is downright garbage--30 versions of the exact same game, and oh, don't be surprised if you download a game that crashes or has countless bugs, because there are plenty. Oh, and don't ask for your money back either. I've never done that myself, but if you read reviews of apps before you buy, you'll see plenty of that. So if the app store releases aren't really monitored by apple at all(that recent DS simulator app which was pulled for copyright infringement comes to mind), doesn't that tell you that it's possible apps containing viruses, etc will be released? People do shop on their iphone, afterall. It's funny because as far as the two portables go, the typical prenotion one gets from the two companys has somewhat reversed.By the way, I own a 16gig Ipod touch(2G). It really isn't that bad, I'm just realistic and see where apple faults. Don't forget the constant updates by apple though, some of which you might have to PAY for. Or the hardware updates, which render the prior gen somewhat obsolete, at least for games.
According to the cnet review:Zune's internet browser sucks[QUOTE=''CNET'']Connected to the same wireless hot spot, the iPod Touch and Zune HD each loaded The New York Times Web site in about three seconds, except the Touch was able to load the full, desktop version of the front page, while the Zune HD's browser could only load the lighter, text-only version of the page designed for mobile phones. Other little factors, such as the lack of forward navigation button, auto-fill, multiwindow browsing, image downloads, and typing suggestions, all made the Zune HD's browser a little less glamorous than the Touch[/QUOTE]Zune's OLED screen is overrated[QUOTE=''CNET'']The OLED screen technology used in the Zune HD offers many advantages over the more common backlit LCDs found in most mobile phones and portable media players, but potential buyers should be aware that OLED performs poorly in direct sunlight. Testing the iPod Touch and Zune HD outdoors on a sunny afternoon, with both players set at full brightness, we found that the Touch offers noticeably better visibility than the Zune.[/QUOTE]Better sound? :lol:[QUOTE=''CNET'']In side-by-side comparisons with the third-generation iPod Touch heard over a pair of Ultrasone HFI-2200 and a pair of Shure SE310 in-ear headphones, it was difficult to discern any sonic characteristics one device had over the other--except to say that the iPod's headphone amp offered a few more clicks of headroom over the maximum volume output of the Zune HD. Also, as much as we'd prefer to see a custom graphic EQ on both devices, the EQ presets on the Touch outshone the Zune HD in both quality and quantity.[/QUOTE]
I didnt have a choice in the matter, it was the iPod Touch or bust.
[QUOTE=''JuarN18'']According to the cnet review:Zune's internet browser sucks[QUOTE=''CNET'']Zune's OLED screen is overrated[QUOTE=''CNET'']The OLED screen technology used in the Zune HD offers many advantages over the more common backlit LCDs found in most mobile phones and portable media players, but potential buyers should be aware that OLED performs poorly in direct sunlight. Testing the iPod Touch and Zune HD outdoors on a sunny afternoon, with both players set at full brightness, we found that the Touch offers noticeably better visibility than the Zune.[/QUOTE]Better sound? :lol:[QUOTE=''CNET'']In side-by-side comparisons with the third-generation iPod Touch heard over a pair of Ultrasone HFI-2200 and a pair of Shure SE310 in-ear headphones, it was difficult to discern any sonic characteristics one device had over the other--except to say that the iPod's headphone amp offered a few more clicks of headroom over the maximum volume output of the Zune HD. Also, as much as we'd prefer to see a custom graphic EQ on both devices, the EQ presets on the Touch outshone the Zune HD in both quality and quantity.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]If that's the case with the internet browser, I'll side with the author on that matter. However, the rest of the review is a joke, regardless of which product you prefer. Who even bothers to look at the screen in DIRECT sunlight? No portable player, including the ds and psp, perform well under direct sunlight. The audio aspect is even a bigger joke. What the reviewer prefers does not equate ''good'' sound. Sound should be reviewed in terms of measurements, because most peoples ears are a little bit different.
[QUOTE=''SF_KiLLaMaN''][QUOTE=''santoron'']Zune is a really nice piece of equipment, but the ''only thing'' everyone keeps bringing up is the most important aspect: the apps. Kind of like a Mac vs PC argument, when you're looking to game on a device, you go where the software is. Currently, there are over 121,000 apps on the AppStore, and the platform has the attention of most major gaming publishers (and a slew of indie developers). To assume Zune will soon (if ever) match the number and variety of games and entertainment apps on the AppStore is a huge leap of faith.Since this forum is specifically about the gaming capabilities of mobile devices, the iTouch runs away with this one...[/QUOTE] just because the forum has gaming in it doesn't mean that it is the only thing we take into consideration when comparing two devices. Seems kinda stupid to compare two things judging by only one feature.... [/QUOTE]But this forum is specifically presented to only talk about the gaming aspect. Hence the ''No MP3 player or PDA discussions'' warning at the very top...The best place to get into an arguement of hardware merits would be SW.
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